April 12, 2010 at 9:38 am #3236
Aside from random general pain and soreness in my feet and knees, my allopurinol treatment has worked very well.
Over the past 3+ months, I’ve been trying to get my heart rate up by jogging. Currently, I can run/jog a mile in about 8 minutes.
My question is, am I doing damage to my joints by doing this exercise?
Ironically, I never had any knee soreness in my life until I started allopurinol. My last uric acid readings have been around 4! I’m only 31 and like to stay active. But not at the cost if it’s doing damage. After each jog, I typically drink about 1 liter of water to rehydrate. I know there are other ways to get my heart rate up, but I like to jog if possible.
April 13, 2010 at 2:47 pm #8252trevParticipant
It would becomon enough to get knee cartilage problems from jogging. It happened to me in my 40's and I had to give it up. This was before gout kicked in by many years ,too!
I must admit that walking is easier and the ability to do this for long distances is something to hang on to.
Yes, jogging is good for stretching the heart and I really enjoyed it- but other pursuits are less fraught with potential damage, over time.April 13, 2010 at 2:54 pm #8254
Thank for the reply Trev. I do understand what your saying. I don't have any pain while jogging and my SUA has been averaging around 4-4.5 for the past 5+ months (3.6 yesterday). Do you think there is less of a chance of me having issues since my levels are low and new crystals should not be forming? Again, I never had any joint pain whatsoever prior to my first gout attack and I would hate to give up jogging 🙁
PS: I'm referring to me jogging when there is no imflammation at the timeApril 13, 2010 at 6:00 pm #8257trevParticipant
yep CJ- I'd take a punt and bet that if you haven't had a knee gout and now under control in the feet- you would be Ok.
What I'm saying is my exp with running and others too, is that the knees are prone to damage eventually and with gout you really need a more gentle regular, and keep you supple, exercise esp. on the extremities. I'm looking long term.
Something to watch with a cautious eye, you won't need reminding what gout feels like ,should you be so unlucky in the knee dept!April 13, 2010 at 10:05 pm #8263vegetarianGuyParticipant
cjeezy stick to cardio in the gym using step machine or those elliptical trianers. Less impact on your joints. Running screws up the joints even for non Gout people so for Gout patients it's not worth the risk.
I don't even have knee pain but still I don't risk it. I use the step machine to take my heart rate to 180 level for 45minutes. Although right now I can't even walk properly as I am in the middle of an attack.April 13, 2010 at 11:34 pm #8265
I agree. It is bad for knees.
Before my Gout attack, I used to do a lot of jogging….My average jogging was 5 miles in a stretch 4-5 time a week and at variable speed of 5 mph to 10 mph on treadmill….Somedays, I use to even go 7 miles at a stretch.
I had that routine for many years and for me if there was no jogging, I did not feel if I have done any exercise.
But then later I started getting knee pain and pain in the hips. I had to reduce the jogging and switch to brisk walking. Though I do not feel satisfied with brisk walking, at this time that is what I can do with my foot situation. Jogging is very much reduced…generally 1 mile or so occasionally..
At the same time, the painful knee has improved a lot with walking….April 14, 2010 at 10:12 am #8273
The problem is that I like to jog outside (not a fan of machines) and step machines/ellipticals seem to always hurt my lower back for some reason. I'm not referring to running a marathon, but merely 1-2 miles/day to keep active.April 14, 2010 at 10:38 am #8276vegetarianGuyParticipant
Post edited 3:13 pm – April 14, 2010 by cjeezy
The problem is that I like to jog outside (not a fan of machines) and step machines/ellipticals seem to always hurt my lower back for some reason. I'm not referring to running a marathon, but merely 1-2 miles/day to keep active.
Dude I like going gym everyday but I am stuck at home. What we like and reality are two different things. Cycling outside?April 14, 2010 at 10:42 am #8277rdavisiiiParticipant
I have had a similar issue related to trail running. I have been on AP now for almost 3 months and I have been slowely working back to running. I feel like a hamster when I workout in a gym, I like the terrian, I like the outside far too much and if you feel the same way you will never be successful working out in a gym. Currently I have been hiking at a good clip(3-4 MPH) in the hills 5-6 days a week. I typically do a 6 mile route(800 feet elevation gain) most days with a 10+ mile route( 1500+ feet elevation gain) thrown in once a week. I do mix in running while I am out there but not a whole lot, the amount has been increasing. Do a workout you love, more importantly a workout you will do, just be cautious in opening up the throttle.April 14, 2010 at 12:09 pm #8279
Do a workout you love, more importantly a workout you will do, just be cautious in opening up the throttle.
Wow! 5-6 miles nearly everyday. Anyways I completely agree about exercising caution when opening up the throttle. This is why I keep jogging to only 1-2 miles/day. If I start feeling any pain in the future I'll certainly discontinue until inflammation subsides. I guess in my original post I was more or less asking if I could be causing damage even though I dont have pain. I'd like to have kids and be able to keep up with them one day lolApril 14, 2010 at 6:46 pm #8282GoutgalParticipant
I really don't know how anyone can jog, after a gout attack. I guess I'm reading that many do this. It's been 8 weeks since my attack, and I'm just starting to walk more briskly, and even at that, I watch for a pebble, uneven bricks, or a cracked sidewalk, which (I've learned) causes some pain, or turns my ankle the wrong way. And, I've exercised a number of years in the gym, and have fast walked. That said, I understand we each have our own type/area of pain. My hat's off to all you joggers and fast walkers.April 14, 2010 at 11:22 pm #8287
After the gout attack, I do not do treadmill amymore yet. Currently it is on a walking /joggin track next to a hill on the backside of my home. It is very nice at this time with green hills on one side and a lot of almond trees on other side. They were all pink(flowering season) couple of weeks back and now they are full of thousands of Almonds on them.
One fun of outdoor walking is that I can pick fresh almonds in the months of Mid May to June /July. That's my favourite time as I pick them fresh everyday after jog. I could do it only few weeks last year due to gout attack. I hope, this year I can do better in picking themApril 15, 2010 at 6:00 am #8292Keith Taylor (GoutPal Admin)Keymaster
Isn't jogging for gouties in the same class as rock climbing for vertigo sufferers?April 15, 2010 at 7:14 am #8295
I really don't know how anyone can jog, after a gout attack. I guess I'm reading that many do this. It's been 8 weeks since my attack, and I'm just starting to walk more briskly, and even at that, I watch for a pebble, uneven bricks, or a cracked sidewalk, which (I've learned) causes some pain, or turns my ankle the wrong way. And, I've exercised a number of years in the gym, and have fast walked. That said, I understand we each have our own type/area of pain. My hat's off to all you joggers and fast walkers.
Keep in mind, its been 8-9 months since my last attack. There is no way I would have jogged immediately following the attack. Aside from some random general soreness, I have full range of motion in my joints. Actually, my joints typically feel better when I'm jogging. I can say, aside from the general soreness at times, I “almost” feel back to normal <knock on wood>April 15, 2010 at 7:20 am #8296
Isn't jogging for gouties in the same class as rock climbing for vertigo sufferers?
I'm starting to think it depends on the person. Everyone's body is different and it probably depends how much urate is already laid down. I CAN run a full sprint right now if I wanted with no problems/pain but instead I jog with extreme caution at a mild pace (6mph). If my joints ever start to feel uncomfortable I'll stop. Also, while it damn near lasted 2 months, I've only had 1 major gout attack in my life thus far <again, knocking on wood>. Thank God for AP! Last test on Tuesday was 3.6!April 15, 2010 at 8:13 am #8297rdavisiiiParticipant
In regards to damaging the joint, my doc has taken x rays on my problem areas a few times a year over the last few years. I was trying to make a go at it without AP they thought this was a good idea to ensure damage was not happening. I have always pushed being outside and always have a trip on the horizon, gout has really messed with that the last two years. I do get what I consider mild pain in the foot, both feet actually but this usually clears up when it happens within 10-20 minutes of starting my walks. Overall I find I am in better spirits and feel better phyiscally if I am getting out 5-6 days a week. My problems in the past have always started by taking more days off then on, sometimes I think if I am slacking I am just inviting trouble.April 15, 2010 at 9:50 am #8298
Post edited 12:40 pm – April 15, 2010 by cjeezy
Isn't jogging for gouties in the same class as rock climbing for vertigo sufferers?
I'm starting to think it depends on the person. Everyone's body is different and it probably depends how much urate is already laid down. I CAN run a full sprint right now if I wanted with no problems/pain but instead I jog with extreme caution at a mild pace (6mph). If my joints ever start to feel uncomfortable I'll stop. Also, while it damn near lasted 2 months, I've only had 1 major gout attack in my life thus far <again, knocking on wood>. Thank God for AP! Last test on Tuesday was 3.6!
I fully agree with you. I have always found jogging as less painful. I talked to the podiatrist and was told that it is very common thing after the joint injury as jogging for many needs less bending near toe area than the walking while the load is more on the knees and hips.
It is funny that I always felt my joint more mobile and less painful most days after jogging as I reported in one of my earlier post reply sometime back.
I am doing less currently due to never ending rain in bay area and I am not using treadmill for some time now. The weather is getting beter and I look forward to more jogging days ahead…..the only issue is that I have to be careful not to hurt the injury site…I am given a sleeve which I wear before jog and that protects it from shocks and uneven surfaces…April 16, 2010 at 9:11 am #8308zip2playParticipant
I agree with those who find that exercise helps with gout. Crystallization takes time and little disturbance with cool conditions, just the opposite of exercise producing heat, rapid blood flow and muscle and tendon massage. It is is no accident that most gout attacks wake us from an immobile sleep of many hours.
Thus the worst thing a goutie can do is sleep.
But the alternative is pretty tough.
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